Bulldog:
Prince George's County, Maryland, is a Washington, D. C. bedroom community, with a HUGE PERCENTAGE of the population engaged in do-nothing, lucrative federal government positions - positions that can be filled by anyone who can breathe. Thanks to the largesse of the federal government, income rates are higher in the Washington, D. C. area.
In short , Prince George's County does not represent the "real world" in the sligh-*test*-('"). It is a federal-government distorted perversion of economic theory.
Likewise, your assertion that 86% of Negroes graduate from high school as opposed to 87.6% of whites is patently false.
THESE ARE THE CORRECT FIGURES:
Given Half a Chance:
The Schott 50 State Report on Public Education and Black Males
www.blackboysreport.org
The Schott Educational Inequity Index
Table One
The graduation rate for Black male students for the nation as a whole in 2005/2006 was 47%, that is, most Black
male students did not graduate with their cohort. On the other hand, New Jersey and Arizona had graduation
rates for their Black male students close to, or higher than, the national average graduation rate for White,
non-Hispanic male students. Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, New York, Wyoming, Indiana, and Florida had
conspicuously large gaps between their graduation rates for Black and White male students.
STATE SEII 2005/6
Graduation Rates
2005/6 Cohort
Black Male White Male Gap *
Wisconsin 1.14 36% 87% 50%
Michigan 1.08 33% 74% 41%
Illinois 1.01 40% 82% 41%
Nebraska 0.99 44% 87% 43%
New York 0.98 39% 75% 37%
Wyoming 0.91 41% 72% 32%
Indiana 0.87 43% 73% 30%
Florida 0.83 38% 60% 22%
Louisiana 0.83 38% 60% 21%
South Carolina 0.82 38% 59% 20%
Tennessee 0.82 44% 71% 26%
Connecticut 0.82 51% 83% 32%
USA 0.81 47% 75% 28%
Ohio 0.81 49% 79% 30%
Georgia 0.78 40% 58% 18%
Alabama 0.77 43% 63% 20%
Nevada 0.76 40% 55% 16%
Massachusetts 0.75 51% 77% 26%
District of Columbia 0.74 55% 84% 29%
Oregon 0.72 58% 89% 31%
Missouri 0.72 54% 79% 25%
Kansas 0.71 53% 77% 24%
North Carolina 0.70 49% 69% 19% 1
STATE SEII 2005/6
Graduation Rates
2005/6 Cohort
Black Male White Male Gap *
Washington 0.69 50% 70% 19%
Minnesota 0.68 59% 86% 27%
Pennsylvania 0.68 58% 84% 26%
Montana 0.68 57% 81% 25%
Rhode Island 0.68 53% 73% 20%
Delaware 0.68 51% 69% 18%
California 0.67 54% 75% 21%
Virginia 0.66 54% 75% 21%
Mississippi 0.63 49% 61% 12%
Alaska 0.63 53% 69% 16%
Colorado 0.62 58% 78% 20%
South Dakota 0.61 61% 82% 21%
Texas 0.58 58% 74% 16%
New Mexico 0.57 55% 67% 12%
Oklahoma 0.56 59% 74% 15%
Hawaii 0.55 53% 61% 8%
Idaho 0.49 64% 77% 13%
Iowa 0.49 69% 87% 18%
Utah 0.49 69% 88% 18%
Kentucky 0.49 59% 68% 8%
Arkansas 0.48 63% 74% 11%
New Jersey 0.45 74% 92% 19%
West Virginia 0.44 63% 69% 7%
New Hampshire 0.37 61% 60% -2%
Arizona 0.20 81% 82% 1%
North Dakota 0.07 89% 84% -5%
Maine 0.05 85% 75% -10%
Vermont -0.01 88% 75% -13%
* Gap numbers here and elsewhere in this report are rounded.
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You are referencing a study more than eleven years old in which social promotions were used to get Negroes out of the school system despite their failures
Facts are facts.
Bulldog- 08-02-2008
Interesting Tex.
Quote from the website you quote above
On average, Black males are more likely to attend the most segregated and least resourced public schools.
snip
If Black students did poorly in all schools, we would plausibly seek solutions to the problem of their achievement among those students themselves. The same would be the case if, in schools with majority Black enrollments, Black students did poorly and the other students did well. But in reality, Black students in good schools do well. At the same time, White, non-Hispanic students who attend schools where most of the students are Black and their graduation rates are low, also do poorly. The crisis of the education of Black males sits squarely in the middle of the crisis America faces as we work to create a world-class public education system that will support and maintain the values of a fair and equitable democratic society.
http://www.blackboysreport.org/node/107
Anonymous- 08-02-2008
Education has nothing to do with intelligence.
Intelligence is the CAPACITY to learn - not HOW MUCH one has learned.
One possesses intelligence at birth. The template is virtually unyielding, absent some brain injury or disease.
It has been proven time and again in the United States that performance in schools has NOTHING to do with the amount of money poured into them.
More money-per-pupil in the United States is expended in the District of Columbia school district than virtually any other, and the results are astonishingly bad - due to no other reason than the fact that the school population is overwhelmingly Negro.
Facts are facts.
Bulldog- 08-03-2008
Education has nothing to do with intelligence.
Intelligence is the CAPACITY to learn - not HOW MUCH one has learned
So no link between the two then?
If, as the webpage you linked to above suggests, blacks do well in good schools, then that means that they do have the capacity to learn?
N'est pas?
Anonymous- 08-03-2008
If there were a link between education and intellectual capacity, all persons at birth (prior to being introduced to educational regimens) would possess the same intellect.
That is PATENTLY absurd.
If Negroes have the capacity to learn on a level commensurate with Western Europeans, why did few, if any, Negro tribes ever develop a written alphabet or language?
If Negroes have the capacity to learn on a level commensurate with Western Europeans, why were the African tribes in such a conditin (intellectually and culturally) that ALL of them came to be dominated by Europeans?
Anonymous- 08-03-2008
NEGRO SCHOOL DROPOUT RATES ARE ABYSMAL They just can't keep up.
Schools "cook the books" to make it appear that minorities are graduating at higher percentages than the truth reveals.
Sad, but true.
Facts are facts.
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New Data Show Dropout Rate Much Worse
AR Articles on Race in Schools
Fantasy and Fraud: No Child Left Behind (Feb. 2004)
Catastrophe in Kansas City (Dec. 1995)
Integration... Disintegration (Jul. 1993)
Pure Stupidity (April 2001)
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More news stories on Race in Schools
KGTV (San Diego), July 16, 2008
Nearly a quarter of San Diego public high school students dropped out in the 2006-07 school year, according to figures released Wednesday by the California Department of Education.
According to the CDE’s report, 22.8 percent of ninth- through 12th-grade students within the San Diego Unified School District dropped out during the 2006-07 academic year.
{snip}
Throughout California, 24.2 percent of public school students dropped out in 2006-07, according to the CDE.
“Twenty-four percent of students dropping out is not good news,” State Superintendent of Public Instruction Jack O’Connell said. “In fact, any student dropping out of school is one too many, and the data reveal(s) a disturbingly high dropout rate for Latinos and African Americans.”
According to O’Connell, the dropout rate among African Americans is 41.6 percent statewide, and 30.3 percent for Latinos.
{snip}
Last year’s estimate placed the dropout rate at 13 percent. O’Connell said it would be a “mistake” to compare the two figures, however, because they were based on different information.
{snip}
Original article
(Posted on July 17, 2008)
VVUHSD Worst Dropout Rate In County
Victorville (California) Daily Press, July 16, 2008
{snip}
However, the state’s average of a 24.2 percent dropout rate pales in comparison to the 54.5 percent within the Victor Valley Union High School District—the district is home to the worst dropout rates in the county.
District officials place the blame on a number of things including student frustration in meeting class requirements, according to Duneen DeBruhl, VVUHSD assistant superintendent of educational services.
“If students didn’t feel they’d have enough credits to graduate with the state required exit exam, they will feel more inclined to drop out,” said DeBruhl. “We’ve also had an increase of special needs students and students learning English as a second language.”
The district far exceeds the state and county average in high school dropouts and holds the highest dropout rate within the Victor Valley.
Apple Valley Unified is second highest at 28.9, one percentage point lower than the county average.
“Families I encounter that come to the High Desert have a weak support system and the family’s educational background is sometimes very weak as well,” said Chico Garza, special assistant to San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools. “Youths I run into who are thinking about dropping out sometimes don’t so much want to get out of school, but sometimes get out of their home. If they drop out and are frustrated on top of that, it can lead them to fall into gangs and get trapped in minimum wage jobs.”
{snip}
The data was compiled from a newly implemented tracking system that issues each student an identifier number. The number enables officials to monitor each student as he or she progresses through school, allowing for a more accurate accounting.
The new data revealed high dropout rates for minority students: 41.3 percent of black students, 31.3 percent of Native Americans, 30.3 percent of Hispanics, and 27.9 percent of Pacific Islanders. White students had a 15.2 percent dropout rate, while Asians had a 10.2 percent rate.
{snip}
The state is downplaying the dropout rate by overestimating student withdrawals—those who transfer, move or earn GEDs normally make up a tiny fraction of enrollment, he said.
The state is also not including middle-school dropouts, which Bonsteel put at 4 percent, to come up with a total dropout rate of 37 percent.
Bulldog- 08-03-2008
If there were a link between education and intellectual capacity, all persons at birth (prior to being introduced to educational regimens) would possess the same intellect.
Er... where do you get that from?
What I said about was that the webpage you linked to earlier says that blacks in good schools do well. That, if true (and it came from your link) would suggest that they do have the intellectual capacity to learn, which is what you are trying to deny.
If Negroes have the capacity to learn on a level commensurate with Western Europeans, why did few, if any, Negro tribes ever develop a written alphabet or language?
Well Tex, methinks that a few hours studying history might be well spent (assuming you have the capacity ;) )
"Western Europeans" didn't invent the written alphabet, they inherited it from the Romans, who in their turn, developed it from the Greek versian. The Greeks having adopted it from the Phoenicians who pinched the concept from the Egyptians.
Now, if you take a look in an atlas (you'll be able to find one in your local library if you ask the nice lady) you will find that Egypt is located on the continent of Africa
Africa, you see, where the Negroes come from.
Further, you will find that even in sub-Saharan Africa, writing systems had been developed prior to even the Egyptians.
For instance, the Ethiopic Writing System
and the Vai Syllabry System
More here
Facts are facts
Anonymous- 08-03-2008
According to the politically-correct BBC, the oldest writing system is Egyptian (and probably derived from Semitic peoples).
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/521235.stm>
Egypt is NOT sub-Saharan.
Ancient Egyptians were NOT exclusively of the Negro race.
By the way: Those Ethiopians have REALLY made the most with their alphabet, have they not? BIGTEX fully expects the next generation of supercomputers and a bona-fide cure for cancer to be developed in that nation quite soon . . . NOT!
Hmm.
Care to discuss CAPACITY to learn further?
Bulldog- 08-03-2008
According to the politically-correct BBC, the oldest writing system is Egyptian (and probably derived from Semitic peoples).
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/521235.stm>
Not the first time they've been wrong.
Egypt is NOT sub-Saharan.
True, as I pointed out above.
It's closer than western Europe though isn't it.
Care to discuss CAPACITY to learn further?
Not really, I think we're probably done now.
Although I would point you in the direction of this site which highlights some prominent black inventors and scientists. All thick Negroes obviously.
Anonymous- 08-03-2008
Please refer BIGTEX and other readers to the specific post in which BIGTEX asserted all Negroes were/are "thick."
Or have you, as is common to liberals, "assumed" an assertion that does not exist?
Facts are facts, after all.
Rana- 08-03-2008
...in which BIGTEX asserted all Negroes were/are "thick."
...
Now this wouldn't be an example of the pot calling the kettle "black" - so to speak, would it? :wink:
Anonymous- 08-03-2008
Not at all.
Thank you for asking.
By the way: It seems to be quite fitting that you grace your posts with photos of a female dog.
Freudian, perhaps?
Spartacus- 08-04-2008
"Bigtex," since you've ignored my question on another forum, can I ask you again here why you refer to yourself in the third person?
Freudian, perhaps?
Spartacus
Rana- 08-04-2008
Not at all.
By the way: It seems to be quite fitting that you grace your posts with photos of a female dog.
Now what made you think that he was female? Jumping to your usual wrong conclusions? Perhaps another photo may help?
Anonymous- 08-04-2008
Spartacus:
BIGTEX apologizes for ignoring you on some other forum, but BIGTEX has decided to post to and monitor this forum exclusively, so, if one seeks to contact BIGTEX, this is the forum on which to do so.
BIGTEX is a truly awe-inspiring paragon of truth, justice and the American way. I am so in awe of myself that I can scarcely believe the lofty heights of virtue, knowledge, education, courage and wisdom I have attained; accordingly, referring to myself in the third person helps keeps me rather well grounded and more able to communicate with littlepeople.
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