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Bestbear- 09-30-2008
What an irony it would be ....
... if the present financial crisis were to save Gordon Brown's bacon, and with it the fortunes of the Labour party!:shock: This is the man who has been on the bridge, presiding over the leaky plates and watching the waters of debt rising in the holds and the engine room ... ... and now he is the Experienced Captain who alone can steer the ship through the storm. :roll: And I have a horrible fear that this nightmare is unfolding before our very eyes. :?

Bulldog- 09-30-2008

This is Gordon Brown we're talking about Bear. I wouldn't worry, just sit back and watch him bugger it up.

Bestbear- 10-01-2008

How the financial crisis has smiled upon Gordon Brown By Benedict Brogan, Political Editor http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1065446/BENEDICT-BROGAN-How-financial-crisis-smiled-Gordon-Brown.html Events have played into Gordon Brown's hands. The carnage on Wall Street and in the City has silenced his party critics and allowed him to reassert his authority as a grizzled veteran of global economics. The turnaround in his fortunes is striking. A week ago he was trapped in a seemingly endless fight with his party over his fitness to lead that put his future in doubt. But the shattering events in New York and London have changed all that, at least for the moment. Last night he summoned the cameras for a round of interviews that showed him exhausted but confident, for the first time in weeks dealing with issues that he understands backwards. Mr Brown emphasised reassurance rather than announce new measures to tackle the financial emergency. ________ snip _________________________

Bulldog- 10-01-2008

or the first time in weeks dealing with issues that he understands backwards The operative word here being, backwards. As in "he's a bit backwards"

Bestbear- 10-13-2008

He certainly looks prety darned pleased with himself. That nagging fear of mine just will not go away!

Bulldog- 10-13-2008

He certainly looks prety darned pleased with himself. That nagging fear of mine just will not go away! Relax Bear Bookies not known for throwing their money away

tjwmason- 10-13-2008

Bookies not known for throwing their money away That wouldn't be the bookies throwing their money away, that would be the punters. The odds are more generally reflective of the betting market than of the bookies' belief in one particular outcome or another.

Bulldog- 10-13-2008

That wouldn't be the bookies throwing their money away, that would be the punters. The odds are more generally reflective of the betting market than of the bookies' belief in one particular outcome or another. Of course you are right TJ. And doubly so as Betfair is a betting exchange rather than a traditional bookie. But these are still very long odds for Labour to overcome.

tjwmason- 10-13-2008

That wouldn't be the bookies throwing their money away, that would be the punters. The odds are more generally reflective of the betting market than of the bookies' belief in one particular outcome or another. Of course you are right TJ. And doubly so as Betfair is a betting exchange rather than a traditional bookie. But these are still very long odds for Labour to overcome. What it shows is that plenty of folk are prepared to put money on it, rather than just random ponderings in the media which cost nothing.

Bestbear- 10-14-2008

Now Mr Brown is being feted, hailed as the saviour of the world's banking system. :shock: :shock: I expect this will be reflected in the polls, and if he gets a good 'un I reckon he might call a snap election. He doesn't have to wait until 2010. He could go anytime, and might choose to do so before the coming slump. What would happen then, eh? My fears deepen, rather than recede!

Bulldog- 10-14-2008

Now Mr Brown is being feted, hailed as the saviour of the world's banking system. :shock: :shock: I expect this will be reflected in the polls, and if he gets a good 'un I reckon he might call a snap election. He doesn't have to wait until 2010. He could go anytime, and might choose to do so before the coming slump. What would happen then, eh? My fears deepen, rather than recede! If he gets a good 'un he will ponder, dither and delay. Then he'll get a not so good un and lose his bottle again.

Bestbear- 10-14-2008

But he's been there, done that and come away with the t-shirt, Dog. And he has the newly ennobled slimeball to prompt him. I hope you are right, but I remain seriously worried. Why do we hear so little from the Conservatives? They seem to be dropping out of sight, leaving Vince Cable to make all the running. Well. nothing we can do but wait and see. The last thing I want to be able to do, ever, is to say "I told you so!" before shutting myself away in my hibernatorium .....

Bestbear- 10-14-2008

Nice reader's letter in the DT today: Sir - I am reminded of RS Thomas's reference to "one of life's conjurors" who "produces out of a hat rabbits where his brains should have been". Chris Bocutt, Ashford, Kent :lol: :lol: :lol:

Bulldog- 10-14-2008

Why do we hear so little from the Conservatives? Because the election less than two years away. At the moment, as you say, Brown is behaving and (crucially) being feted in some sections of the media as "the saviour of the world". The bank bail outs will probably give some short term relief to the problems, if that relief lasts until the election, and the Tories had criticised him, Brown would be able to say, "Two years ago, I saved the world, and the Tories opposed me!" But if it all goes tits up again, the Tories will be able to say, "See! Look what that prat did!"

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