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Gator- 11-11-2008
Soldier whips the ass of an Obama supporter
Don’t mention to a soldier from the 10th Mountain Division that you support Obama. He will whip your ass. http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/11/assault_began_with_argument_ov_1.html Assault began with argument over Obama, witness says by John Doherty / The Post-Standard Monday November 10, 2008, 5:36 PM Submitted photo Angel Moreno Submitted photo Kevin T. FlanaganOswego police are continuing their investigation of a Sunday morning melee that left a Barack Obama supporter gravely injured and a soldier who fought in Afghanistan charged with his beating. Angel Moreno, 19, of the Bronx, was listed in critical condition at University Hospital Monday. The soldier, Pvt. Kevin T. Flanagan, from Manchester, N.H., was being held in the Oswego County jail. He is charged with third-degree assault, a misdemeanor. Investigators are interviewing witnesses to the fight and other charges and arrests could be pending, said Oswego police Capt. James Comerford. According to police, officers arrived at the Pizza Pub restaurant, 141 W. Bridge St., at 3:02 a.m. Sunday and found Moreno, 19, a junior at the State University College at Oswego, lying near a parked car. Moreno was taken by ambulance to the college and was then flown by helicopter to University Hospital. According to a witness in the restaurant, the fight began when patrons began arguing about Obama's presidential election. About 12 people, including several soldiers, took the argument outside and the fight broke out, according to a restaurant waitress who declined to give her name. "It was all over the new president," the waitress said. Police said no weapons were involved in the fight. Moreno, who is majoring in wellness management, is an Obama supporter according to his Facebook Web site, which features an Obama poster. Flanagan joined the Army in January 2006 and arrived at Fort Drum that May. He is a fire support specialist with the 1-32 Infantry Battalion, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division. He was in Afghanistan from May 2006 to June 2007. Army officials are aware of Flanagan's arrest, said Fort Drum's Julie Cupernall. Any disciplinary action against Flanagan, such as a discharge, would not be taken until the charge he faces are resolved in civilian court, Cupernall said. I expect he will get a medal from his unit and the civilian judge will let him go. That area (Ft Drum) is the HQ for the 10th Mountian Divsion. They have been spearheading the fighting in A-stain for several years. This is just a small example of how the military views that asshole Obama.

Bulldog- 11-12-2008

Thug. No excuse for that.

Highlander- 11-12-2008

If that had involved soldiers from my old regiment they would have been hauled off to Colchester and had their own asses kicked.

tjwmason- 11-12-2008

Disgrace to the honour of his uniform.

Gator- 11-12-2008

Disgrace to the honour of his uniform. He wasn't wearing an uniform at the time. The military will pretend to make a big deal out of it because they can't have their soldiers going around beating up civilians. However, I suspect back at the base he will be treated with a lot of respect and will not have any real punishment. I have been telling you guys that the military has no respect for Obama. This is an example of what I was talking about. My son tells me that many of NCOs and Officers in his Cavalry unit have said they will be getting out of the military when their committment is up now that the asshole has been elected. If I was some pathetic little Liberal college kid I would be very careful what I said to a soldier for the next few years.

tjwmason- 11-12-2008

Disgrace to the honour of his uniform. He wasn't wearing an uniform at the time. He didn't need to be wearing it.

Gator- 11-12-2008

Disgrace to the honour of his uniform. He wasn't wearing an uniform at the time. He didn't need to be wearing it. I think the Soldier's service to his country gave the honor to beat the shit out of some pathetic little Liberal kid if the kid mouth off to him. Men of honor will sometimes defend that honor when challenged by the despicable filth of the Left Wing. Maybe that college kid learned a lesson out of it; don't mouth off to a real man. I have no respect for those little pissant Left Wing college kids from New York. They need to get their asses beat from time to time by real Americans. Evidently their parents were deficient in raising the little shits.

Bulldog- 11-12-2008

I think the Soldier's service to his country gave the honor to beat the shit out of some pathetic little Liberal kid if the kid mouth off to him. I think a soldiers service to his country should include all his country, not just the people he agrees with. I think that a soldiers duty is to protect his countrymen, not to assault them. I think this soldiers actions damage the reputation of his fellow servicemen. Some people will read this and say "There! That is what our soldiers do!" No honour in this incident.

Highlander- 11-12-2008

I have no respect for those little pissant Left Wing college kids from New York. They need to get their asses beat from time to time by real Americans. Evidently their parents were deficient in raising the little shits. So this is how "real Americans" react to people who don't agree with their points of view? Real men can respect the views and politics of others, even if they don't agree with them. Service in the forces doesn't give anyone the right to break the law. Hopefully the genuine "real Americans" will let this guy know in clear terms that his behaviour was unacceptable.

Gator- 11-12-2008

I have no respect for those little pissant Left Wing college kids from New York. They need to get their asses beat from time to time by real Americans. Evidently their parents were deficient in raising the little shits. So this is how "real Americans" react to people who don't agree with their points of view? Real men can respect the views and politics of others, even if they don't agree with them. Service in the forces doesn't give anyone the right to break the law. Hopefully the genuine "real Americans" will let this guy know in clear terms that his behaviour was unacceptable. This Left Wing faction in America is dangerous and needs to get its ass whiped from time to time. He wasn't acting as an Soldier. He was off duty. He was acting as an American patriot who is getting fed up with the little ignorant Liberal shits. I don't think I need a lecture on "getting along" from an Euro. You people have been going to war with one another at the drop of the hat for the last 3000 years. There has a even been a couple of times when you pulled us into to fight your wars for you.

Gator- 11-12-2008

I think that a soldiers duty is to protect his countrymen, not to assault them. I think this soldiers actions damage the reputation of his fellow servicemen. Some people will read this and say "There! That is what our soldiers do!" No honour in this incident. He wasn't acting as a soldier but as a patriot that was fed up the Liberal shits. His reputation among his fellow soldiers was greatly enhanced by beating the crap out of the worthless little sonofabitch. If I met the guy in a bar I would buy him a beer and so would many other Americans. I don't think many Americans find anything wrong with kicking the ass of a dumb ass Left Winger.

mac1- 11-12-2008

I have no respect for those little pissant Left Wing college kids from New York. They need to get their asses beat from time to time by real Americans. Evidently their parents were deficient in raising the little shits. So this is how "real Americans" react to people who don't agree with their points of view? Real men can respect the views and politics of others, even if they don't agree with them. Service in the forces doesn't give anyone the right to break the law. Hopefully the genuine "real Americans" will let this guy know in clear terms that his behaviour was unacceptable. agreed; the analogy with Blair made by BD in other threads I think is accurate: his wife has similarities with Blair's also IMO - quite a radical leftie I should imagine who'll push her agenda at every opportunity. But vitriolic outbursts don't do you any favours. Yeah, you're sore about Obama getting in, but with Bush's approval rating somewhere between Mugabe and the Ebola virus, the Democrats could have fielded a ham sandwich and still won.

tjwmason- 11-12-2008

Disgrace to the honour of his uniform. He wasn't wearing an uniform at the time. He didn't need to be wearing it. I think the Soldier's service to his country gave the honor to beat the shit out of some pathetic little Liberal kid if the kid mouth off to him. Men of honor will sometimes defend that honor when challenged by the despicable filth of the Left Wing. Maybe that college kid learned a lesson out of it; don't mouth off to a real man. Not only don't you know how to spell the word honour, you also have no notion of what it means.

Gator- 11-12-2008

Disgrace to the honour of his uniform. He wasn't wearing an uniform at the time. He didn't need to be wearing it. I think the Soldier's service to his country gave the honor to beat the shit out of some pathetic little Liberal kid if the kid mouth off to him. Men of honor will sometimes defend that honor when challenged by the despicable filth of the Left Wing. Maybe that college kid learned a lesson out of it; don't mouth off to a real man. Not only don't you know how to spell the word honour, you also have no notion of what it means. You mean like the "honor" British troops showed when they massacred South and North Carolina women and children during the Revolutionary War? How about the “honor” they showed by starving to death thousands of POWs during the same war? I’ll take a Soldier that occasionally gets into a barroom fight over that any day.

Sandman- 11-12-2008

You mean like the "honor" British troops showed when they massacred South and North Carolina women and children during the Revolutionary War? How about the “honor” they showed by starving to death thousands of POWs during the same war? I’ll take a Soldier that occasionally gets into a barroom fight over that any day. You seem to enjoy living in the past, Gator. We could all quote horrors of past conflicts, which were part of a different kind of society. Mankind has supposedly progressed over the last couple of hundred years and most of us have learned from the mistakes of history. We could also refer to the way the Americans killed and tortured civilians in Iraq, or how they poured their troops into pointless battles in the final hours of WW1 after the signing of the armistice. But slanging matches never achieve anything. What some might have done in the past has nothing to do with what someone else does today. If the guy who beat up the student was in my company I'd have made him run 100 laps of the parade ground while holding his rifle above his head, before sending him to the CO who would throw the big red book (Kings Regulations) at him. He didn't get the election result he wanted. Well, boohoo. What a pathetic individual. He needs to grow up, and so do those who defend his actions.

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