Soldier whips the ass of an Obama supporter

You mean like the "honor" British troops showed when they massacred South and North Carolina women and children during the Revolutionary War? How about the “honor” they showed by starving to death thousands of POWs during the same war? I’ll take a Soldier that occasionally gets into a barroom fight over that any day. You seem to enjoy living in the past, Gator. We could all quote horrors of past conflicts, which were part of a different kind of society. Mankind has supposedly progressed over the last couple of hundred years and most of us have learned from the mistakes of history. We could also refer to the way the Americans killed and tortured civilians in Iraq, or how they poured their troops into pointless battles in the final hours of WW1 after the signing of the armistice. But slanging matches never achieve anything. What some might have done in the past has nothing to do with what someone else does today. If the guy who beat up the student was in my company I'd have made him run 100 laps of the parade ground while holding his rifle above his head, before sending him to the CO who would throw the big red book (Kings Regulations) at him. He didn't get the election result he wanted. Well, boohoo. What a pathetic individual. He needs to grow up, and so do those who defend his actions. So I guess you are telling me that UK Soldiers don't occasionally get into bar fights and don't ever stand up to obnoxious civilians while off duty, correct? I guess you are all perfect little gentlemen, huh? The Soldier will have to face charges in the civilian courts for assault. It will probably be a misdemeanor with no real punishment unless the college kid is really hurt. The Army doesn’t like its Soldiers beating up civilians so officially he will get some punishment in his unit. I suspect extra duty or maybe even a reduction in rank since the incident made the news. However, I also suspect that he will treated as a hero by his fellow Soldiers because they know his actions were warranted. By the way, my son got into a bar fight while serving in Korea last year. Some Tanker made a remark about Cav Scouts that my son didn’t like. The MPs broke it up. Both men were required to have at it in a Regiment boxing match. That is life in the military. At least in a non sissy military.

You mean like the "honor" British troops showed when they massacred South and North Carolina women and children during the Revolutionary War? How about the “honor” they showed by starving to death thousands of POWs during the same war? I’ll take a Soldier that occasionally gets into a barroom fight over that any day. You seem to enjoy living in the past, Gator. We could all quote horrors of past conflicts, which were part of a different kind of society. Mankind has supposedly progressed over the last couple of hundred years and most of us have learned from the mistakes of history. We could also refer to the way the Americans killed and tortured civilians in Iraq, or how they poured their troops into pointless battles in the final hours of WW1 after the signing of the armistice. But slanging matches never achieve anything. What some might have done in the past has nothing to do with what someone else does today. If the guy who beat up the student was in my company I'd have made him run 100 laps of the parade ground while holding his rifle above his head, before sending him to the CO who would throw the big red book (Kings Regulations) at him. He didn't get the election result he wanted. Well, boohoo. What a pathetic individual. He needs to grow up, and so do those who defend his actions. So I guess you are telling me that UK Soldiers don't occasionally get into bar fights and don't ever stand up to obnoxious civilians while off duty, correct? I guess you are all perfect little gentlemen, huh? Massive non sequitor - but by contrasting this man's behaviour with being "a perfect gentleman" you make the point which everybody apart from you seems to grasp, that his behaviour was unacceptable. Of course every society (including the military) has its bad eggs, and even the good eggs misbehave from time-to-time - what sets a good society apart from a bad one is how they are dealt with...good military discipline requires that this man be given a suitable punishment.

I guess you are all perfect little gentlemen, huh Massive non sequitor - but by contrasting this man's behaviour with being "a perfect gentleman" you make the point which everybody apart from you seems to grasp, that his behaviour was unacceptable. Of course every society (including the military) has its bad eggs, and even the good eggs misbehave from time-to-time - what sets a good society apart from a bad one is how they are dealt with...good military discipline requires that this man be given a suitable punishment. Why that is such a proper and civilized response that it makes me want to puke. The military is rough men willing to do rough things on your behalf so that you can sleep well at night. They aren't supposed to be politically correct pansies. They are strong men that won’t take shit from some obnoxious Left Wing college student when the student disparages the military like this little punk did. The Soldier will take his punishment like the real man he is and hold his head high knowing that he did the right thing. More of these little shitass Liberal college students need to have their asses beat by real men like the veterans of the 10th Mountain Division. Maybe the Soldiers can succeed where the weak minded parent of the little Left Wing shits failed. By the way, the men of the 10th Mountain Division fought in Europe in WWII. I am sure they frequented some English pubs prior to deployment. Maybe even got into a bar fight now and then. They kicked a lot of German ass so that you English could sleep well at night. Combat - 1945 The division entered combat on January 28, 1945 in the North Apennine Mountains of Italy. The division faced German positions arrayed along the 5 mile long Monte Belvedere-Monte della Torraccia ridge. Other divisions had attempted to assault Mount Belvedere three times, even holding it temporarily, but none had succeeded. To get to Mount Belvedere the division first had to take a ridge line to the west known to the Americans as the Riva Ridge. The Germans on Riva Ridge protected the approaches to Mount Belvedere. The assault on Riva Ridge was the task of the 1st Battalion and F Company, 2d Battalion, 86th Mountain Infantry. After much scouting, it was decided the assault would be at night, a 1,500-vertical-assent. The Germans considered the ridge to be impossible to scale and manned it with only one battalion of mountain troops. The attack by the 86th on February 18, 1945, was a complete success and an unwelcome surprise to the Germans. Mount Belvedere was assaulted next. Belvedere was heavily manned and protected with minefields. Shortly after the 86th assault on the Riva Ridge, the 85th and 87th Regiments made a bayonet attack without covering artillery fire on Belvedere beginning on February 19th. Again the surprise of the assault was successful and after a hard fight, the peak was captured. Realizing the importance of the peak, the Germans made seven counterattacks over two days. After the first three days of intense combat, the division lost 850 casualties to include 195 dead. The 10th had captured over 1,000 prisoners. The 10th was now in a position to breach the German's Apennine Mountain line, take Highway 65 and open the way to the Po Valley. On April 14, 1945, the final phase of the war in Italy began. With the 85th and 87th leading, the 10th Mountain Division attacked toward the Po Valley spearheading the Fifth Army drive. The fighting was fierce with the loss of 553 mountain infantryman killed, wounded, or missing in the first day.

Gator, I can't decide whether you are a dangerous extremist or a wind up merchant. I suspect the latter. It's hard to believe that such a character exists in the real world. Pointless responding to you really. I am hardly an extremist. I am just blessed with moral clarity. My moral clarity tells me that the Left Wingers are not held accountable for their filth near enough. It seems like everybody gives them a pass. The Soldier at Ft Drum drew the line. I look at this little incident as a scumbag Left Winger getting his due from a real patriot. Can't say that it bothers me too much. I would go further and say that I hope it happens more in the future. At my age I am not inclined to get into bar fights but I know that my patience with them is wearing thin.

By the way, just to add more information about the incident: The situation was a mass melee, students versus soldiers with a 12 to 70 ratio in favor of the college kids. However, 12 young infantrymen versus 70 college kids, sounds fair. My understanding is that Moreno landed the first punch and then the troop hit him back and he went down, striking his head on a car. Interesting, where are you getting your information from? The reports in the media tell a different story. http://tinyurl.com/59ooto You have to piece together the reports. For instance the New York Post article talks about the 70 college students. Another article about Moreno making the first agressive action. Another article mentions a small groups of soldiers facing large group of college students. Here is what happen: A group of soldiers go out for the evening. Soldiers are sitting at a table discussing what an asshole they think Obama is. Many stupid college students start to taunt the Soldiers because they don't like anybody dissing their Messiah. The Soldier leave and go out to the parking lot to go home. College students follow and surround the Soldiers. One of them (Moreno) shoves/hits Flannagan. Flannagan hits back and Moreno hits his head on a car while going down. It was actually a case of the Left Wing college students being aggressive and the Soldiers having to fight back. The Soldiers are the good guys here and the Left Wing Obama loving shits are the assholes.

< You have to piece together the reports. Oh right, so you picked the bits that suited your opinion. Might as well have made it up. Be interesting to see how it plays out in court.

Gator, You got in spot on before the election when you said Obama was going to disarm The American Military Industrial Complex. You see Obama ain't stupid. He knows that having US Military Bases all over the World - and continuing to devote almost all of the United States Home Based Manufacturing and to employ nearly One Third of the American people in industry very tightly linked to the US Military even if they do occasionally come up with something that can be used by normal people who don't want to kill human beings... Isn't a Great Idea - if he want's to maintain the Love and Affection shown to him - from the rest of the World outside America So - YOU are being disarmed Just thought I would confirm the Good News to You Tony

Remember you heard it first on Radio Tinfoil! :wink: Spartacus

Spartacus, I visited my Brother two days ago In a Hospice Yes - he did join the Territorial Army And he met his Girlfriend - now his Wife in The Territorial Army But it was in 1963 when the TA was just like big Boy Scouts And they were told whilst playing their silly games If an Irish bloke comes up to you and says - can I have your gun - then don't give it to him. My Dying Brother is Magnificent I did tell him not to do it too much He ain't dead yet Sure he's had one lung removed - and had almost been left for dead 4 weeks ago Well he said - this one still works all right Fuck Knows Why They Put Me Here in This Hospice I'm Going To Get Better Tony

My best wishes to your brother, Tony. Hospices are wonderful places. He will be well looked after there. Not sure what it has to do with the previous post though. I fear that President Elect Obama won't give our Florida Man-Child and his ilk the satisfaction of closing down the American Military-Industrial Complex. This will disappoint those who will now have to look for a more convincing reason for attempting to assassinate him. Spartacus

Spartacus, The situation is such that no cunt in the World would dare even think of putting together a plan to assassinate Barack Obama. JFK and the others were easy But now Everyone - well apart from the Gator loonies - who no one takes seriously Thinks Obama is on the Other side which is a different dimension What I am trying to say is that the World is currently going through a massive crisis And no one knows how it is going to pan out But the best anyone can do is put down their guns and try and help their fellow man and woman and child Love & Peace, Tony

< You have to piece together the reports. Oh right, so you picked the bits that suited your opinion. Might as well have made it up. Be interesting to see how it plays out in court. Two of the soldiers that were in the group were Medics and even gave first aid to the asshole college student: According to the deposition of Antonio Cosme who was at the Pizza Pub with Flanagan, he saw his friend arguing with a group of six or seven males outside the business. “I then saw a tall, skinny black male push Flanagan,” Cosme said about Moreno. “Just as I got outside, Flanagan swung one time and hit the kid in the face. The male then instantly fell down. I think he was knocked out before he hit the ground. All the guys outside went to jump on Flanagan.” Cosme also said that he got into a fight with one guy and that the police arrived after about five minutes. Two of the males Cosme was with were medics and began giving aid to Moreno, he said. http://www.palltimes.com/news/x1772946192/SUNY-community-unites-to-support-injured-student The name of the article is "Community unites to support injured student". If the "community" were decent people they would be behind the brave Soldiers that have been risking their lives in war instead of those Liberals shits that go around shoving and shouting at Soldiers. I guess this what we can expect in an Obama America.

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