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tjwmason- 06-22-2009
It's Bercow.
Once Her Majesty gives her approbation John Bercow will be the new Speaker. Looks like the Labour whipping back-fired on them... The interesting point here is that I gather Mr. Bercow is not the favoured candidate of most Conservatives, and there have been rumours that the election of the speaker by the new House of Commons will not be the usual pro-forma affair. Personally that is precisely why I wanted Miss Widdecombe to get it, a new Speaker until we get a new Parliament.

Bestbear- 06-22-2009

You were right to want Miss Widdecombe. She would have been magnificent, and expected to do the job only until the next election. We shall have to see how well Bercow performs. I think he lacks the presence the job needs.

Spartacus- 06-22-2009

A big favourite with the Blairites, I hear. Spartacus

Bulldog- 06-23-2009
Re: It's Bercow.
Once Her Majesty gives her approbation John Bercow will be the new Speaker. Looks like the Labour whipping back-fired on them... The interesting point here is that I gather Mr. Bercow is not the favoured candidate of most Conservatives, and there have been rumours that the election of the speaker by the new House of Commons will not be the usual pro-forma affair. Personally that is precisely why I wanted Miss Widdecombe to get it, a new Speaker until we get a new Parliament. But the big question of course TJ is , Will he wear the wig?

Bestbear- 06-23-2009

I expect he will do away with a lot of the remaining tradition. :evil: I would not be sorry to see the back of the present Sergeant, though.

Highlander- 06-23-2009

I know nothing about this guy, but apparently only 3 conservatives voted for him. I hope he doesn't change things too much. Traditions such as wigs and formalities help maintain a sense of identity and order. Procedures are often in place for a reason. Reformers rarely look at the bigger picture.

tjwmason- 06-23-2009
Re: It's Bercow.
But the big question of course TJ is , Will he wear the wig? The rumours I heard a while ago suggested he would have been more than happy with wig, lace, and stockings - but that was long before he married and turned into a lefty. I doubt that he will.

tjwmason- 06-23-2009

I hope he doesn't change things too much. Traditions such as wigs and formalities help maintain a sense of identity and order. Also they emphasise that the importance is not with Mr. John Bercow but with the Speaker of the House of Commons and his position as the embodiment of the House...such a diminution of the person in favour of the office is definitely out of fashion these days, doesn't fit too well with our rampant egotism. Reformers rarely look at the bigger picture. Absolutely, and they forget that the most constant law of change is the law of unintended consequences.

Sandman- 06-23-2009

Surely, not wearing the wig is like turning up on parade without your uniform. He'd be improperly dressed. In the military we do not salute the man, rather we salute the rank as displayed by the uniform. Without the wig and gown, the guy in the seat will just be a guy in the seat, not The Speaker. It's about respect for the office.

Spartacus- 06-23-2009
Re: It's Bercow.
The rumours I heard a while ago suggested he would have been more than happy with wig, lace, and stockings . Not the first Tory MP with such tastes, I'm told ... :wink: Spartacus

tjwmason- 06-23-2009
Re: It's Bercow.
The rumours I heard a while ago suggested he would have been more than happy with wig, lace, and stockings . Not the first Tory MP with such tastes, I'm told ... :wink: Spartacus Indeed not, to think I was such a naïf before I joined the Conservative Party.

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