House ignores Bush, rejects $700B bailout bill Pelosi Pops Out Her IUD in a rage !!!! :oops: :lol:
WASHINGTON - In a stunning vote that shocked the capital and worldwide markets, the House on Monday defeated a $700 billion emergency rescue for the nation's financial system, ignoring urgent warnings from President Bush and congressional leaders of both parties that the economy could nosedive without it. The Dow Jones industrials plunged nearly 800 points, the most ever for a single day.
Democratic and Republican leaders alike pledged to try again, though the Democrats said GOP lawmakers needed to provide more votes. Bush huddled with his economic advisers about a next step. The House was to reconvene on Thursday instead of adjourning for the year as planned.
Stocks began falling even before the 228-205 vote to reject the bill was officially announced on the House floor. The 777-point decline for the day surpassed the 721-point previous record, on the day after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, though in percentage terms it was well short of the drops on Black Monday of October 1987 and at the start of the Depression.
In the House chamber, as a digital screen recorded a cascade of "no" votes against the bailout, Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley of New York shouted news of the falling stocks. "Six hundred points!" he yelled, jabbing his thumb downward.
Bush and a host of leading congressional figures had implored the lawmakers to pass the legislation despite loud pro-*test*-('") from their constituents back home. Not enough members were willing to take the political risk just five weeks before an election.
More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed the bill.
The overriding question for congressional leaders was what to do next. Congress has been trying to adjourn so that its members can go out and campaign for the election that is just five weeks away.
"The legislation may have failed; the crisis is still with us," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., in a news conference after the defeat.
"What happened today cannot stand," Pelosi said. "We must move forward, and I hope that the markets will take that message."
At the White House, Bush said, "I'm disappointed in the vote. ... We've put forth a plan that was big because we've got a big problem." He pledged to keep pressing for a measure that Congress would pass.
Republicans blamed Pelosi's scathing speech near the close of the debate — which attacked Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" of financial markets — for the vote's failure.
"We could have gotten there today had it not been for the partisan speech that the speaker gave on the floor of the House," Minority Leader John Boehner said. Pelosi's words, the Ohio Republican said, "poisoned our conference, caused a number of members that we thought we could get, to go south."
Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo., the whip, estimated that Pelosi's speech changed the minds of a dozen Republicans who might otherwise have supported the plan.
That was a remarkable accusation by Republicans against Republicans, said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee: "Because somebody hurt their feelings, they decided to punish the country."
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Bulldog- 09-29-2008
Prediction: They'll renegotiate and this will pass on the next attempt.
Not saying that's necessarily a good thing.
Il Duce Speaks !!!
VIDEO LINK
There seemed to be lots of empty seats as she walked to the lectern, is that common in congress?
I'd have expected to see a packed house given the importance of the debate.
SouthwestRanger- 10-01-2008
Il Duce Speaks !!!
VIDEO LINK
There seemed to be lots of empty seats as she walked to the lectern, is that common in congress?
I'd have expected to see a packed house given the importance of the debate.
Apparently Madame Speaker is not as popular as she thinks....
Also....
EXCLUSIVE: Pelosi paid husband with PAC funds
$99,000 for rent, utilities, accounting fees
Jennifer Haberkorn (Contact)
Wednesday, October 1, 2008
EXCLUSIVE:
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has directed nearly $100,000 from her political action committee to her husband's real estate and investment firm over the past decade, a practice of paying a spouse with political donations that she supported banning last year.
Financial Leasing Services Inc. (FLS), owned by Paul F. Pelosi, has received $99,000 in rent, utilities and accounting fees from the speaker's "PAC to the Future" over the PAC's nine-year history.
Last year, Mrs. Pelosi supported a bill that would have banned members of Congress from putting spouses on their campaign staffs. The bill - which passed the House in a voice vote but did not get out of a Senate committee - banned not only direct payments by congressional campaign committees and PACs to spouses for services including consulting and fundraising, but also "indirect compensation," such as payments to companies that employ spouses. :rolleyes:
"Democrats are committed to reforming the way Washington does business," Mrs. Pelosi said in a press release at the time. "Congressman Schiff's bill will help us accomplish that goal by increasing transparency in election campaigns and preventing the misuse of funds."
Last week, Mrs. Pelosi's office said the payments to her husband's firm were perfectly legal, insisting she is compensating her husband at fair market value for the work his firm has performed for the PAC. But ethical watchdogs said the arrangement sends the wrong message.A senior adviser to Mrs. Pelosi described the payments to FLS as "business expenses."
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SR: All animals are equal...but some are more equal than others...
Bulldog- 10-01-2008
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has directed nearly $100,000 from her political action committee to her husband's real estate and investment firm over the past decade, a practice of paying a spouse with political donations that she supported banning last year.
Well you know what they say...
If you can't beat em........ join em!
Gun Packing Yank- 10-03-2008
The damn thing passed on the 2nd try. Shit.
Bulldog- 10-03-2008
The damn thing passed on the 2nd try. Shit.
As predicted.
Interesting effect on the stock market though.
DJI dropped 157 tics & closed lower than it was following the 770 point drop after they rejected the bail out first time.
No pleasing em is there?
Gun Packing Yank- 10-04-2008
The market went UP the day after the house said no the first time. Then it dropped when the senate passed it, and went up 300 the next day....until the house passed the bailout and dived to finish with the 157 drop.
But Congress had to do SOMETHING to pat themselves on the back with election time. At least my rep voted correctly. Too bad over 1/2 of congress were dumbasses.
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