David Davis strikes blow for liberty David Davis resigns from Commons over 42-day anti-terror plan
Andrew Porter
Last Updated: 2:42PM BST 12/06/2008
Shadow home secretary David Davis is resigning as an MP to "take a stand" against the Government's 42-day terror detention plan.
Mr Davis said he was pro-*test*-('")ing against the "insidious and monstrous" erosion of civil liberties in Britain.
He said: "Up until yesterday I took the view that what we did in the House of Commons, representing our constituents was a noble endeavour because with centuries of forebears we defended the freedoms of the British people - well we did up until yesterday."
Mr Davis said 42-day detention was "the most salient example of the insidious, surreptitious and relentless erosion of fundamental British freedoms."
He had spearheaded the Conservatives' failed bid to defeat the Government over extending detention without charge.
A by-election will be held in his constituency of Haltemprice and Howden.
Mr Davis said: "I will argue in this by-election against the slow strangulation of fundamental British freedoms by this Government.
"It must be stopped and for that reason today I feel it is incumbent on me to take a stand."
Mr Davis is seen as one of the Shadow Cabinet's best operators and has claimed the scalps of a succession of ministers.
His popularity among the Conservative grass roots was demonstrated when he came runner-up to David Cameron for the party leadership in 2005.
He had worked very closely with pressure group Liberty in mounting opposition to the 42-day detention proposals.
Liberty director Shami Chakrabarti said: "MPs of all parties hold courage and conviction about these values and few more so than David Davis."
Mr Davis is understood to have told Conservative party leader Mr Cameron of his intentions on Wednesday night, shortly after the Commons vote.
The Government narrowly survived the vote despite a sizeable Labour rebellion.
The Telegraph revealed this morning that the Conservatives' failure to defeat the Government hit Mr Davis hard and had led to friction between him and the leadership.
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The BBC - and the sub editor of the Telegraph whp wrote their headline - were wrong to say Davis resigned "over 42 terror plan". This, as the body of the report makes clear, was a tipping point. He is actually resigning to fight a by-election on the very things we on Free Britannia are exercised about: the erosion of liberty and the increase in the arrogance and pettiness of the State under this Labour gummint.
ALL POWER TO HIS ELBOW! :!:
Blair lied...- 06-12-2008
Re: David Davis strikes blow for liberty The BBC - and the sub editor of the Telegraph who wrote their headline - were wrong to say Davis resigned "over 42 terror plan".
Yes, I must say that I am very disappointed by the BBC's misleading coverage of David Davis' campaign. The BBC has stated many times on "News 24" and in the fifth paragraph of their main website report that: "Mr Davis said he would fight the by-election campaigning against the government's plans to extend pre-charge detentions for terror suspects to a maximum of 42 days."
This is incorrect. He stated in his resignation announcement: "I will argue at this by-election against the slow strangulation of fundamental British freedoms by this government ... In truth, 42 days is just one - perhaps the most salient example - of the insidious, surreptitious and relentless erosion of fundamental British freedoms."
By misrepresenting his argument the BBC is painting him as an extremist and damaging his chances of being re-elected in the by-election, since most members of the public do not hold strong opinions about the 42 days detention without charge issue.
Note that he was also a vocal critic of the national ID card/NIR database scheme, the new population surveillance databases, the Regulatory and Investigatory Powers Act, the expansion of the national DNA database and the Civil Contingencies Act etc.
He is a brave and principled man who deserves not to have his position undermined by lazy or - in the BBC's case - biased reporting.
Therefore, after seeing his resignation speech this evening I rang his party H.Q. office in Willerby and pledged my support to help him with his re-election campaign. Anyone who wants to do likewise should ring: (01482) 657938 or email him at: conservative@haltemprice.karoo.co.uk
Rana- 06-12-2008
This is the front page of the BBC News at 21:40
Davis issues challenge to Labour
Shadow home secretary David Davis quits as an MP over the erosion of "British liberties" and urges Labour to fight him
My emphasis in bold - note plural. Doesn't quite jive with your complaints.
Bulldog- 06-12-2008
I can't get my head around this.
What is he trying to achieve?
What can he achieve?
It can only be either;
A. That he feels so strongly personally about the issue that he's prepared to give up the almost certain prospect of one of the great offices of state within two years, in order to draw public attention to it and force a public debate (I doubt if the public at large give a monkeys about detention without charge for terrorists and won't until it's extended to every offence, which it surely will be eventually)
or
B. That he's fallen out with Cameron, expects to be sidelined, and is using this as an excuse to preempt that, increase his own public profile with a view to challenging for the leadership or pitching for some other top job at some time in the future.
I hope it's the former, but I think it's a big mistake for him personally, either way.
Shame because he's a huge talent.
I think its a principled stand, too.
Davis wants to be returned with a huge mandate from his constituents, and thus show that cour freedoms need defending, not eroding in the interest of this false "security" argument, but - in reality - because the insstincts of socialism are against freedom. (unless you are Party member, of course.)
Rana- 06-12-2008
I think its a principled stand, too.
Davis wants to be returned with a huge mandate from his constituents, and thus show that cour freedoms need defending, not eroding in the interest of this false "security" argument, ...
Actually, I agree with you that it is probably a principled stand - which, to me, was quite obvious form the BBC articles.
Blair lied...- 06-12-2008
This is the front page of the BBC News at 21:40 ... My emphasis in bold - note plural. Doesn't quite jive with your complaints.
Actually, the story has been re-written since I made a formal complaint to the BBC about it at 6.30 PM GMT. And by the looks of it I wasn't the only one to make a complaint.
I then posted part of my complaint to the BBC here and used the quote from the new version of the article, which is still disingenuous. You will note that the article was edited at 20:41 GMT. Originally, the claim I was objecting to was in the second paragraph of the article and there was no mention of his platform being to defend other "British liberties" anywhere else in the article.
BBC News 24 (the channel broadcast to the UK on terrestrial digital) has had a running commentary on this story since early this afternoon where the message repeated every 20 minutes or so and the caption running along the bottom of the screen stated that Davis has resigned over the decision to increase the maximum pre-charge detention period for terror suspects to 42 days.
I was angry at the misleading nature of the BBC's reporting on TV all afternoon, on the 6 PM BBC1 TV news programme and in three BBC News website articles.
There is an older BBC article posted at 18:21 GMT which states: "Mr Davis is resigning as an MP, saying he will fight a by-election on the basis of his opposition to government terror detention plans."
That article doesn't mention his objections to the erosion of other civil liberties by this government. I suppose they forgot to edit it.
But you don't have to take my word for any of this because another reader made a comment on the BBC's "Have Your Say" forum, (currently on page 44 but will probably have moved higher up by the time you read this), about the main article I originally cited:
Added: Thursday, 12 June, 2008, 15:01 GMT 16:01 UK
Despite what the BBC's headline is, this is not about the 42 day issue. This is about ALL of the moves to a police state and Labour run dictatorship style government. There is a long list of freedoms eroded by this government. In the Common's they lost the argument and bribed the DUP, some Labour MPs said they didn't agree with it yet voted for Brown to save his job (and thus theirs), this is not democracy, this is the Soviet Union. Torys, Lib Dems and anyone for freedom should back Davis.
, Oakleigh Park, London, United Kingdom
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And that comment was recommended by 98 people so Igirisu can't have been making it up!
BTW, this sort of BBC bias is nothing new. Broadcasting regulations for the BBC require that when they publish news articles on political issues they must provide hyperlinks to organisations who are putting both sides of the argument. However, I campaign for NO2ID in my spare time and we regularly have to complain to the BBC because they often leave out the link to our website on their news stories about ID cards, but oddly always remember to include the link to the rather obscure I.P.S. website at the Home Office which argues for the scheme.
Blair lied...- 06-12-2008
That he feels so strongly personally about the issue that he's prepared to give up the almost certain prospect of one of the great offices of state within two years, in order to draw public attention to it and force a public debate
After seeing how passionately he attacked the national ID card bill during the debates in the HoC and having read his other attacks on the government's authoritarian legislation I must say that I believe he is serious about these issues.
(I doubt if the public at large give a monkeys about detention without charge for terrorists and won't until it's extended to every offence, which it surely will be eventually).
As I said above they've been repeating this canard all day on the BBC TV news and I dread to think how many voters in his constituency have been put off him by now.
Bulldog- 06-13-2008
According to The Torygraph, Cameron is not happy.
After enjoying eight months of positive publicity and a series of recent electoral successes, Mr Davis’s move marks a significant setback for Mr Cameron.
The Tory leader will now have to deal with the biggest upheaval and uncertainty of his leadership since fighting off a possible early election last autumn.
Publicly, Mr Cameron said the move was “brave and courageous”. But Conservative insiders now believe Mr Davis has “lost the plot
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Tory insiders also believe Mr Davis has now cast himself in to the political wilderness. Mr Cameron immediately replaced him, appointing Dominic Grieve on a permanent basis, and there was no guarantee Mr Davis would return to the shadow cabinet.
A source close to Mr Cameron claimed Mr Davis is “finished”. Mr Davis told Mr Cameron of his decision - first hinted at in Thursday's Telegraph - in the leader’s office after the controversial vote 42-day detention on Wednesday night.
Mr Cameron - furious at Mr Davis for diverting attention from the Conservatives’ recent successes - told him the move was “very, very risky” but the Tory leader’s attempts to change his mind failed.
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In a further sign that he has been cut adrift by the Tory leadership, no funding from the party HQ will go to his by-election campaign, where he will defend a majority of 5,116.
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One ally of Mr Cameron said: “It is a very odd thing to do. He looks like a slightly tired old man now who has missed his chance as leader. He has acted in haste and will probably regret it when he’s simply another backbencher.”
A senior Conservative MP close to David Davis attacked his decision. “It’s an odd decision by David, but he is quite headstrong. We are over 20 points ahead in the polls, heading for victory and he does this. There is a touch of self indulgence about it. I feel a bit uneasy about it.
"He will look very, very silly if there is any kind of terrorist incident in the next six weeks.”
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AngloSaxon- 06-13-2008
Bestbear wrote:The BBC - and the sub editor of the Telegraph who wrote their headline - were wrong to say Davis resigned "over 42 terror plan".Rana wrote:Doesn't quite jive with your complaints.
Its not just the BBC that have been peddling the propaganda. I was watching the ITV news, and they said much the same, as did GMTV this morning. Theyre trying to paint him as a loon, but then, thats what they want. They don't want people questioning the erosion of our rights. They don't teach people about the Magna Carter or the Bill of Rights for the same reason. I noticed that the MSM is more interested in telling people about the Rooney wedding, than the EU poll in Ireland, or the destruction of our freedoms.
An ignorant populations is easier to control.
Good on Davis I say. I won't forget his actions, and I'd vote for him in a heartbeat.
Bulldog- 06-13-2008
I'm sure that David Davis has at his core a deep concern about civil liberties and freedoms in this country. His record proves that beyond doubt.
But what I can't understand is this;
Within 2 years, as home secretary he would have been in the very highest position to repeal a lot of Labours draconian anti-freedom legistation, bring the police to heel, perhaps establish some basic immutable freedoms in British law, and so on and so forth.
But he's chosen to sacrifice that for what is likely to be a short lived stunt which will likely focus on one particular issue.
Bestbear- 06-13-2008
Yes, Dog ... your view is widely shared. But he will be back in the commons in a few weeks, and will not be out of the shadow cabinet for long, I fancy.
Highlander- 06-13-2008
David Davis resigned over the erosion of Civil Liberties, and over his belief that the House Of Commons no longer works for the interests of the British people. That's my understanding.
It is a very important issue, and for him to wait for a couple of years on the chance that he might be put in a position to change things would be casual and foolish. This government could even suspend elections in the interests of national security; such is the way things are going.
The time to act is now.
What will he achieve? Possibly nothing more than unemployment. But I believe that it is important that people see politicians standing on principle, showing that they do care and refusing to be party to an immoral process. He is putting the power into the hands of his constituents. If they return him to Parliament, he will have a strong mandate to stand against the oppressive measures being introduced by the government. It will no longer be just his principle, but the principle of the people he represents.
This cannot damage the Tory party. If they had voted in favour of 42 days, ID cards, etc. then it could be seen as damaging. They did not, so he is still at one with Tory policy. Most people can see that, and I'm sure most people can understand the reasons for his actions.
I would like to see the 36 Labour rebels do the same. They have a greater reason for resigning their seat. They are part of a government which they believe are acting against the interests of the nation, yet they remain a part of it. Okay, they might be seen to be just copying Davis, but it would still be an honourable move.
I salute David Davis for taking this stand. He has put his entire career on the line for a principle. This is no publicity stunt. This is one man drawing his line in the stand.
tjwmason- 06-13-2008
Iain Dale, who knows Davis very well, has written a lengthy piece on this.
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2008/06/david-daviss-walk-into-unknown.html
He seems to think it's a principled stand.
Can't see it meself.
Iain Dale is also a shill for the Party. I suspect that a divergence of opinion within the Shadow Cabinet is part of the reasoning behind this.
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